tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4416632051965806588.post8603353008328198155..comments2024-03-28T15:14:59.328-07:00Comments on The Church of the Open Road Press: BAD BIKER BEHAVIOR HARMS US ALLBumpahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05498776240120709232noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4416632051965806588.post-29331641366923990192013-10-09T15:43:07.401-07:002013-10-09T15:43:07.401-07:00The bikerz in NYC were trying to commandeer the hw...The bikerz in NYC were trying to commandeer the hwy, in order to do wheelies in front of the rear riders, who block all other vehicles behind them by forming an unpassable pack, traveling at a slow speed, also filming these idiotic stunts on their GoPros. This is obviously what the squid was trying to do by slowing down rapidly in front of the SUV. The only victim is the SUV driver. The injured squid is collateral damage, caused by his own foolish, reckless riding. <br /> Your nice note to the rider who upset you was very polite. One time I got into it with a rider who passed me on a tight curve of a mtn road. I confronted him at the rider hangout a few minutes later. I told him to never pass me on a curve again; that if he could've waited a few more seconds, I would have moved to the right on the next straightaway. He knew I was pissed. He said "I ride on this road all the time", and I replied "so do I, and I'd like to come home in one piece". <br /> There are always a few idiots in every community. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4416632051965806588.post-54842224474761500922013-10-08T16:52:43.899-07:002013-10-08T16:52:43.899-07:00It is true that, in the New York incident, we only...It is true that, in the New York incident, we only saw what was we were permitted to see. Knowing that the media works from an "if it bleeds, it leads" mentality, we likely didn't see near enough to form a just conclusion. Good on ya for pointing that out.<br /><br />As far as the intimidation on route 128, tailgating was the extent of the offending action, which may or may not be a trigger for that feeling of being bullied; it might not for me, but it might for somebody else.<br /><br />You and I share the riding strategy of "following from a safe distance, but being close enough for them to see me and consider pulling over at the next convenient spot."<br /><br />Thanks for contributing to the conversation.Bumpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05498776240120709232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4416632051965806588.post-72246258319816605692013-10-08T16:42:57.454-07:002013-10-08T16:42:57.454-07:00I applaud your concern and willingness to make pol...I applaud your concern and willingness to make polite suggestions to fellow riders re: better riding manners. We should all do so, as the situations permit. However, I noticed no mention of things such as horn honking, bird flipping, arm waving or insult yelling that the "agressive" biker might have used to "intimidate" the SUV driver. Am I correct in assuming that the method of intimidation employed was solely tailgating? On a scale of on-road intimidation, how high does tailgating rate, in your estimation?<br /><br />I ask because I like to enjoy Southern California's twisty two-lane canyon roads, and sometimes I find myself behind a slow-moving vehicle. I like to think I follow from a safe distance, but I also want to be close enough for them to see me and consider pulling over at the next convenient spot. It is not for me to decide, however, the place or time for the car/truck/whatever to pull over. I don't flash lights, or flip birds or wave arms or yell. But I do try to make sure that my presence is noted.<br /><br />With regards to your recap of the incident in New York, it pains me to notice that you mischaracterized what was actually shown on the video. If by "swarm" you mean the riders surround the vehicle, then the "swarming" actually began to occur before the vehicle stopped the first time on the video. What we cannot know from the video is whether an altercation occurred prior to that moment, which may have led to the rider trying to "stop" the vehicle. Look closely at the Range Rover's driver side rear view mirror and you'll see that the mirror glass is actually missing. Maybe that's a clue, maybe not. In any case, I don't think the Rover driver's decision to run over a human being was the best decision at that point. The "ensuing chase" also involved the Rover hitting more riders. By the time the SUV was stopped by car traffic, no one should have been surprised to see some of the riders vent their spleens. I am in no way condoning either party's actions, but I don't think this incident is as cut and dried as you, and the mainstream media, have chosen to portray it. <br /><br />You are welcome to disagree, of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com